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ITALIAN HABITS

EXPLAINED: How late is it usual to be in Italy?

You've probably heard that Italians are habitually late and so you'll need to adjust your own arrival times accordingly. But is this always true - and how late are we talking?

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Being 15, 20 or, in some cases, even 30 minutes late is generally seen as acceptable behaviour in Italy. Photo by Andrea Natali on Unsplash

There are plenty of unfair stereotypes about Italians, but when it comes to being chronically late for pretty much any type of social occasion, what you’ve heard is probably accurate.

Most Italians do have a peculiar notion of punctuality and being 15, 20 or even 30 minutes late for a social situation is generally seen as perfectly acceptable – much to the dismay of people from countries where lateness is viewed as rude or inconsiderate.

We might never know why so many Italians’ internal clocks are apparently running behind – the consensus seems to be that it’s a reflection of the relaxed Italian lifestyle – but this lateness is so ingrained in Italian culture that it’s seen as normal and, as such, most will steer clear of giving precise meet-up times. 

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For instance, an Italian friend might ask you to meet them sulle 8 (around 8pm). Don’t take this to mean you’re meeting on the hour precisely – an Italian would be unlikely to ask you to meet them at 8pm.

Similarly, they’ll avoid expressions like tra un’ora (in an hour) or tra mezz’ora (in half an hour) in favour of the more flexible tra un’oretta (in about an hour) or tra mezz’oretta (in about half an hour).

But knowing these phrases won’t leave you any clearer about the actual time of your meeting. So how should you handle the situation?

There’s no universal solution, but The Local’s writers find that the most effective way to avoid a long wait is to always turn up 15 to 20 minutes after the agreed meeting time yourself.

Granted, you might still face ten or 15 minutes alone, but this will at the very least cut the waiting time by half.

It’s worth stressing that this unwritten rule only applies to social occasions and not to formal meetings – which Italians, like anyone else, will at least try to arrive punctually for.

As such, you should always aim to be on time for any formal meeting you might have in Italy. That goes for work meetings as well as appointments with a doctor, lawyer, accountant and so on (even if it’s not unusual to find yourself waiting long after your agreed appointment time.)

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Lastly, no matter how frustrating you might find Italians’ tardiness, you might not want to tell them so.

As being late for social occasions is a defining feature of Italian culture, and is seen as the norm rather than as an anomaly, many people in the country won’t even think it necessary to apologise – and won’t appreciate any negative observations about their timekeeping.

In Italy, the only real way to avoid excessive waiting around is to adapt to ‘Italian time’ yourself. Pazienza.

Do you agree or disagree with this advice? Do you have any more tips on Italian-style timekeeping? Please let us know in the comments section below.

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OPINION: Family is sacrosanct to us Italians – even if it means you can’t get away

Foreigners living in Italy are often left baffled by how much 'la famiglia' is intrinsic to the Italian way of life. Silvia Marchetti explains why families in Italy "stick together like glue", even if it means your relatives are a constant presence in your life.

OPINION: Family is sacrosanct to us Italians – even if it means you can't get away

Family in Italy is considered the building block of society, and it is sacrosanct.

Most Italians give so much importance to it that it is hard for some to believe. Family is far more important in Italy than in other European and western countries where I have lived such as the Netherlands or Switzerland. 

We tend to stick together like glue. 

Talking to several expat friends of mine, I realise this is something that often baffles many foreigners, who are used to leaving the family ‘nest’ at an early stage in life. And it’s not just an impression outsiders to Italian culture get by attending huge flashy weddings, religious celebrations such as baptisms, and birthdays, where family members come in dozens. 

La famiglia is our daily reality, for better or worse. 

I’ve had a hard time dealing with family myself. When I was a kid, until I started to say basta to my parents, each weekend and festivity was spent at my grandparents or with my cousins, uncles and aunts. We even all went skiing together or holidaying at our beach homes. My father and his brothers had bought attached studios so we could all always be together.

In Italy, no matter how old one gets, parents, siblings, relatives of all degrees and grandparents are always present. And sometimes, I think, they’re even too present and may tend to often ‘intrude’ in one’s private life. 

In Italy extended families are considered a blessing and youths can’t seem to leave their parents home until they’re very, very old (hence the denigratory term of ‘mammoni’, meaning ‘mama’s boy or girl’). 

Up until after the Second World War, when a new child was born, families in rural areas and on small islands would build an annexed dwelling so everyone could stick together in future. 

When I first visited the island of Ponza, off Rome’s coast, it struck me how huge cave labyrinths had been carved from cliffs into several annexed grotto homes for the entire extended family. 

One could think that it all comes down to a matter of religion: as the majority of Italians are Catholic, and also quite religious, the Church preaches the importance of family as both a key spiritual and material entity that accompanies people throughout their entire lives.

But that’s not enough to explain it. 

I believe the importance of family is part of a typical Italian lifestyle and mindset, a belief in certain values that having family is like an investment for the future, a safety net in hard times. 

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This traces its roots back centuries. Even though Italian society has always been officially patriarchal on the outside, with the husband-father who decided over the fate of everyone, in reality it was the woman (wife and mother) the lady of the household. Usually, kids tend to stick around their mums more than their dads. 

Across history, family members have always stood up for each other, both in aristocratic and poor families. 

It is crucial to keep in mind that we are a relatively young nation when compared to France and the UK. Italian national unity was reached only in 1861 and the Republic was created in 1946; up until then, Italy did not exist. 

It was a mosaic of bickering city-states and fiefdoms ruled by powerful aristocratic families who were constantly at war with each other. Family was the seat of power, and affiliation was more than just identity and belonging. It meant survival.

Likewise, peasants could solely rely on their own family members to survive, keep the harvests going and the land fertile. Each newborn was considered additional labour force to add to the family, a pair of ‘extra hands’ (as my granny would say) to plough, feed the animals and run the farm activities. 

When society went from rural to modern, and people started abandoning villages to move to larger towns and abroad, family was still seen as a pillar. Immigrant Italian families that have flourished across the world, building, for instance, ice cream and pizza empires that still survive to this day, are proof. 

La famiglia è tutto” (family is everything) is my dad’s favourite motto. 

I believe that, no matter how Italian society will evolve in the near future, spending a lot of time with close family and extended family members will still be a common trait of most Italians. It’s innate.

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