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EXPLAINED: Is it worthwhile to set up a private pension plan in Germany?

If you’re employed in Germany, you’re almost certainly contributing to your state pension. But it might not be enough to live on in your old age, meaning people often have to put other plans in place to retire comfortably. Here’s why some pick private pensions on top of their public ones.

EXPLAINED: Is it worthwhile to set up a private pension plan in Germany?
A pensioner walks down a street in Berlin. Photo: picture alliance/dpa/dpa-tmn | Zacharie Scheurer

Experts reckon that very few people who work in Germany end up drawing a net pension that will even give them the current average monthly wage – which sits at a little over €2,500 after tax. Those that do will have likely contributed the maximum amount for several years.

“For a typical foreigner, that public pension is nowhere near enough,” Chris Mulder, Co-Founder of Pensionfriend – a private pension provider catering to Germany’s expatriate community – told The Local.

Mulder says this is especially true for foreigners because most Germans who live and work their whole lives in Germany simply won’t have enough to retire on with state pension alone. Foreigners, he says, have to be even more mindful because of the “patchwork quilt” of pension entitlements they might end of collecting from around the world, which don’t necessarily all combine well to provide livable incomes later in life.

But while it might be clear to people that they’ll need more than their German state pension in retirement, why might someone want to invest in a private pension plan in Germany rather than simply investing their own money themselves – perhaps in stocks and ETFs through a depot?

Private pension funds can typically professionally invest your money for you. Photo: Unsplah / Jenny Ueberberg

Yet Mulder points out that investing by yourself through a depot will typically see you pay withholding taxes every year – and capital gains tax every time you sell.

By contrast, if you invest through a private pension plan, you’ll pay only when you take your money out – either all at once or over time – typically later in life when you hit retirement age and have less income.

In addition, if you hold the private pension plan for at least twelve years and you wait to take out your money until after you turn 62 – you’ll only be taxed on half of your capital gain. Tax benefits also increase the longer you wait to take it out.

READ ALSO: How does Germany’s retirement age compare to the rest of Europe?

What about plan costs?

Mulder says that even with the tax advantages a private pension plan comes with, some providers may charge too much in fees to make it worth it.

A good rule of thumb is to see if a potential provider’s fees are less than the withholding tax you would pay if you simply invested the money yourself.

“We work to set ours up in a way that your tax advantage outweighs our cost,” said Mulder of his own company’s offering.

READ ALSO: How long do you have to work in Germany to receive a German pension?

Can you take your pension with you out of Germany?

For state pensions, this obviously depends on where you go. You can take German state pension payments anywhere in the European Union or associated countries – meaning that retiring to the warmer climes of Spain or Italy won’t affect you pension rights. Leaving the EU might come with some limits, depending on where you go to.

Private pensions though, are much more flexible – and you can typically draw them wherever you end up relocating.

READ ALSO: EXPLAINED: Do your pension contributions abroad count in Germany?

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Irish pensions in Germany: What you need to know

If you're an Irish pensioner who's thinking of moving to Germany, here's what you should know about where your pension will be taxed, which pension plans are tax liable in Germany and what applicable tax rates are.

Irish pensions in Germany: What you need to know

Whether it’s near Berlin’s Brandenburg Gate, in Bavarian beer tents, or on Rhineland wine tours – you’re likely to run into a fair few Irish tourists in Germany – yet thousands also make Germany their full-time home, including retirees.

According to population data from Germany’s Destatis statistical agency, there were just under 18,000 Irish nationals living in Germany at the end of 2023. Just over 3,500 – or around 20 percent of the Irish people living here – are aged 60 or over.

READ ALSO: Irish in Germany – How many are there and where do they live?

Retirees from Ireland – like anyone else – might come for a change of pace, a less rainy climate, cultural offerings, and (relatively) cheaper cost of living combined with higher standard of living.

Some might be living off their pensions alone, or at least have a significant portion of income coming from their pensions. Keep in mind as well that even though being an Irish national makes it fairly straightforward to retire to Germany because of your shared EU rights, you still have to register as a resident.

You’ll also have to take out public health insurance if you don’t have available private coverage, with contributions determined based on you having enough of your own income to live on. Note that this calculation will be on any income you have – not just your pension. There’s no hard or fast rule on how much you should have in Germany, but you should certainly be taking in more than the poverty line, which is €1,200 a month. 

So how does receiving an Irish pension in Germany work?

EXPLAINED: Do your pension contributions abroad count in Germany?

Irish pensions in Germany

Ireland and Germany have a double tax agreement, originally signed in 1962, but having been amended several times since – most recently in 2021. This essentially removes the possibility of paying tax twice on your pension, and in most cases the tax responsibility is ceded to the country where the recipient is a resident, in this case Germany.

However, it can depend slightly on the type of pension you receive, and whether it’s an occupational pension (otherwise known as a private pension plan) or a public sector pension from a public sector, government, or civil service career.

The rules on pension tax between Germany and Ireland are a little confusing, but still designed to avoid double taxation. Image by TungArt7 from Pixabay

So what’s the difference?

Essentially, if you get an Irish public sector pension, it will be taxed in Ireland as before unless you are both a German citizen and tax resident in Germany.

This is confirmed by the Irish government here: “You may be receiving an Irish pension from the Government or a local authority. In general, this pension is taxed in Ireland regardless of your residence status. Refer to the Government Services article of the Double Taxation Agreement between Ireland and the country you intend to be resident in.”

READ MORE: How can pensioners from abroad retire in Germany?

Private/occupational pensions

Now, what about private or occupational pensions? Generally speaking, if you receive a private pension from an Irish company, you’ll be taxed in whichever country you’re tax resident in.

Per the Irish government: “If you receive an Irish occupational pension from a private sector employer, your pension will be taxed in the country that you are tax resident in if you are both:

To make sure you aren’t taxed in Ireland, you can request a PAYE Exclusion Order.

How much are Irish pensions taxed in Germany?

As stated earlier, state pensions from any country are treated as earned income by the German system.

Therefore, Irish pensions in Germany are subject to progressive tax rates ranging from 14 percent to 45 percent.

There may be some differences though depending on your situation, so be sure to ask for professional advice if you think you need it.

What about ARFs and PRSAs?

If you withdraw money from either your Approved Retirement Fund (ARF) and Personal Retirement Savings Accounts (PRSA), you will be taxed at source regardless of your residence status, so in Ireland.

According to the Irish Tax Institute, “owners of ARFs, vested PRSAs and AMRFs who are not resident in Ireland may be subject to taxation on this income, both in Ireland and their country of residence and subsequently tax relief may be available under the terms of a DTA (Double Taxation Treaties)”, which Ireland has with Germany.

This means that while you may be required to declare this in both Ireland and Germany – you can typically offset what you’ve already paid in Irish tax on your German tax.

Please note, we are at The Local are not financial experts. The information above is designed to help, but if you are unsure of what steps to get yourself in order tax-wise, seek professional advice.

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